This has been hashed out a ton already, but yes, there are some differences with III compared to I & II. Those games had a blank check with over 300 people from multiple industries working on them, not to mention SEGA's premiere studio at the time. What Shenmue III accomplished on a little more than a Kickstarter budget is very impressive. There are some odd bits to the game's story, but I recommend you keep pushing along, as I think you will find some good parts. Plus, this game is a very solid foundation for Shenmue IV. Improve the combat (yes, we ALL want VF5 combat, but it likely will never happen), move the story along like Shenmue II did, and we've got ourselves a treat of a game.Indeed. But I say as a game. May it be as good as the first two, you know?
I still can't believe what I'm playing. My time in that village is being suffocating. I'm about to stop it to start new playthroughs of Shenmue 1 and 2. Maybe I'll just watch the rest of the story of 3 on YouTube. It's painful to say this after I've had wonderful experiences with 1 and 2 this year.
Edit: and what are those trophies? Cut 1000 wood and catch 1000 fish?
But it is also true that today we have many more development tools, resources and options. Shenmue 3 had what? 6 million dollars? Hollow Knight was developed by 2 people with like 60000 Australian dollars. Shenmue 3 devs had no idea what they were doing.This has been hashed out a ton already, but yes, there are some differences with III compared to I & II. Those games had a blank check with over 300 people from multiple industries working on them, not to mention SEGA's premiere studio at the time. What Shenmue III accomplished on a little more than a Kickstarter budget is very impressive. There are some odd bits to the game's story, but I recommend you keep pushing along, as I think you will find some good parts. Plus, this game is a very solid foundation for Shenmue IV. Improve the combat (yes, we ALL want VF5 combat, but it likely will never happen), move the story along like Shenmue II did, and we've got ourselves a treat of a game.
Building a 3d open world game on a 6 million dollar budget is like if Hollow Knight was made for $1000 bucks. Two totally different games - it’s why indies aren’t putting out games attempting to do what Shenmue III did. Again, I think we all agree that 1 and 2 are better, way better perhaps, but 3 is good specifically for what it is (an indie open world Kickstarter game)But it is also true that today we have many more development tools, resources and options. Shenmue 3 had what? 6 million dollars? Hollow Knight was developed by 2 people with like 60000 Australian dollars. Shenmue 3 devs had no idea what they were doing.
Shenmue 4 doesn't need to improve on what Shenmue 3 is. It needs to be completely different. A video game just can't be like Shenmue 3. My English is bad and I lack words to describe Shenmue 3's bizarre structural flaws.
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Edited comment to amend toward TOS:Yep, we'll be keeping a very close eye on this thread. Discuss topics in the appropriate threads and don't derail this one.
Swift action will be taken otherwise, as this is an issue that has come up several times in the past. We won't let the experience of other members suffer because some people can not be bothered to use the right topic.
Respect the platform, respect the rules and respect each other.
I'm sorry.I've already said this once in this thread but I'll say it again - can we please take any Shenmue 3 discussion to the Shenmue 3 forum. This isn't the place to discuss Shenmue 3's issues for the umpteenth time.
To regroup, and though we're all repeating ourselves here:
I admit I'm now convinced there's something Suzuki related, but I'm still unconvinced (though hopeful) that it could be something Shenmue related (Not S4, just something Shenmue). Despite their "next couple of weeks" comment, I'm also not betting on this Tuesday as a literal calendar claim. Could be three weeks, etc.; idioms are idioms. Again, I hope I'm wrong, but I'm too weary to buy into any "hopium"; perhaps we ought practice the calmness that is encouraged in the Wude
It's still a pleasure to be alongside all of you and wonder what's coming, though: as a grumpy Stoic, you fellow Shenmue fans remind me to dream a little!
I think it /should/ lead to that-- it'd be dull to finance, say, a Shenmue 0 without intending to build up hype for 4. That said, I simply admit I'm very much in a "wait till I see it" mode. I also agree that we need to get Shenmue completed ASAP-- not rushed, but completed in a timely manner. I just hope these folks, if indeed involved, see it the same way. They seem more (self-)aware than, say, the S3 folks.If this is a Shenmue related game then imo it confirms a Shenmue 4 will be coming. Shenmue does not have the luxury of wandering off and trying new things. We have to strike while the iron is hot.
I think it /should/ lead to that-- it'd be dull to finance, say, a Shenmue 0 without intending to build up hype for 4. That said, I simply admit I'm very much in a "wait till I see it" mode. I also agree that we need to get Shenmue completed ASAP-- not rushed, but completed in a timely manner. I just hope these folks, if indeed involved, see it the same way. They seem more (self-)aware than, say, the S3 folks.